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Newton Mearns Community Council

 

Meeting held 7pm 25 November 2013

 

 

Present:

Bryson McNeil

Brian Kilcoyn

Kirsteen Allan

Harry Stewart

Stewart Mylett

Pat McCall

Julie Mylett

Irene Yona

 

Apologies:

Chris Majury

Emma Majury

Susie Swift

Colin Hamilton

 

 

Purpose of meeting is to discuss The Constitution and Co-option.

 

Co-Option

 

Confirmation of  Brian Kilcoyn's co-option was held over from October due his absence from the meeting.  The CC were able to confirm co-option.  Proposer Bryson McNeil, Seconder Harry Stewart.

 

An additional item which was agreed at the meeting 27 October but which did not include within the minutes was the question of co-opting further new members and this was raised by Julie Mylett.   It was agreed at the 27 October meeting that no further co-option applications  would be considered in the short term in order to allow the Community Council to bed down after its recent turmoil.

 

Proposed Modification to LDP

 

Ongoing discussion regarding the proposed modification to the LDP for the denominational school at Waterfoot and the mosque at Eastwood High School.   Patterton Farm still seems the most favoured site.    ERC constantly offer undeliverable sites to the Muslim Community and we consider it is highly unlikely that The Reporter will look favourably on EHS as a location.

 

Constitution

 

At the last Joint Community Council meeting, discussion took place in relation to proposed changes to our Constitution.

 

It was agreed that the Constitution  would be amended as follows:

 

 

 

 

Constitution for Newton Mearns Community Council in East Renfrewshire

 

Name

 

1.  The name of the community council shall be:

Newton Mearns Community Council

 

 

Hereafter referred to as “the community council” or “NMCC”.

 

General Purpose

2.  The general purpose of the community council is defined in the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, as follows:

 

‘’In addition to any other purpose which a community council may pursue, the general purpose of a community council shall be to ascertain, co-ordinate and express to the local authorities for its area, and to public authorities, the views of the community which it represents, in relation to matters for which those authorities are responsible, and to take such action in the interests of that community as appears to it to be expedient and practicable’’

 

Membership

 

3.  The maximum number of members permitted for the community council shall be set using the formula: 10 members, plus one extra member for every 1000 residents of the community council area, subject to a total membership of 20.

 

4.  Between elections, vacancies in membership may be filled by the community council through the process of co-option.

 

5.  Candidates for co-option shall be:

 

Resident within that community council area

At least 16 years of age

Named on the electoral register covering their community council area

 

6.  Any proposed co-option shall be minuted at the community council meeting where the proposal is made but shall not be approved until the following community council meeting when a vote shall be taken on the proposed co-option.

 

7.  Once approved, co-opted members shall have full voting rights and shall be counted in the total number of members.

 

8.  The number of co-opted members shall not exceed the number of current elected members.

 

9.  Termination of membership is automatic should any community council member cease to be resident in their community council area.

 

10.  Should any member of the community council fail to attend three consecutive scheduled meetings of the community council, with or without submitting apologies, the community council may terminate their membership, except in circumstances when a period of leave of absence for that member for personal reasons may be approved by the community council.

 

11. Elected members of East Renfrewshire Council representing all or part of the community council area shall be entitled to attend community council meetings in order to work in partnership with the community council, but shall not be counted as members.

 

12. Elected members of East Renfrewshire Council are welcome to attend the normal monthly meeting strictly on an ex-officio basis and may only address the meeting when invited to do so by the Chairperson. They are there primarily to advise on the business of East Renfrewshire Council.

 

13.  Other representatives of the community may be appointed by the community council to attend meetings where there may be a need for individuals with particular skills or knowledge.  Appointed representatives shall serve for a fixed period as determined by the community council or for the term of office of the community council which has appointed them.  Appointed representatives shall not have voting rights and shall not be counted as members.

 

Voting

 

14.  In the event that a vote is required during any community council meeting, voting shall normally be by a show of hands of members present, except in circumstances when the community council may decide that voting by secret ballot is preferred.  Should the number of votes cast be equal, the Chairperson shall have a casting vote.

 

15. Written proxy votes are eligible if signed by the absent community councillor and should name another community councillor to vote in their absence or the proxy can cast their vote on a specific issue. Proxy votes must be lodged with the Secretary at the start of the meeting.

 

 

Office Bearers

 

16.  The community council shall elect a Chairperson, a Secretary and a Treasurer from its membership.  No individual member shall hold more than one of these offices at the same time.

 

17.  Other office bearers may be elected at the community council’s discretion.

 

18. All office bearers shall hold office until the next annual general meeting when they shall be eligible for re-election.

 

19. When electing office bearers, only those community councillors with at least one year’s experience of NMCC should be proposed unless all members are new to NMCC.

 

Meetings

 

20.  The quorum for all meetings of the community council shall be one third of the maximum number of members permitted for the community council.

 

21.  The frequency of meetings shall be determined by the community council, subject to a minimum of one annual general meeting and six ordinary meetings being held each year.

 

22.  The annual general meeting shall be held in September each year.  The business of this meeting shall include presentation of the annual report of the community council and examined annual accounts, the election of office bearers and the schedule of meetings for the following year.

 

23.  Special meetings may be called at any time on the instructions of the Chairperson or on the request of not less than half of the current members.

 

24.  The Chairperson shall rule on all matters of order, relevancy and competency arising at meetings of the community council.

 

25.  The Chairperson shall ensure that all meetings of the community council are conducted in accordance with the constitution and the code of conduct and that all decisions are reached in an open and democratic manner.

 

26.  The Chairperson shall have the power, in the event of disorder arising at any community council meeting, to adjourn the meeting.

 

Minutes

 

27.  Minutes of each meeting of the community council shall be submitted to East Renfrewshire Council within fourteen days after being approved. Once submitted ERC, shall publish that approved minute on their website, without amendment, alteration or redaction.

 

28.  Following approval at the next relevant community council meeting, an official copy of the minutes shall be signed by the person presiding at that meeting and retained by the Secretary for future reference.

 

Public Participation

 

29.  Agendas, minutes, notice of all meetings and contact details shall be prominently posted by the community council throughout the community council area, where possible.

 

30.  The community council shall communicate with the public by other means, such as newsletters, local newspaper articles, email, internet, suggestion boxes and surveys, where possible.

 

31.  The monthly meetings of the community council shall be open to members of the public. At the discretion of NMCC, parts of the meeting may be held ‘in camera’ and all non-community Councillors be excluded.

 

32.  Members of the public shall be encouraged to attend community council meetings and the opportunity shall be afforded at each meeting to permit members of the public to address the community council, under the guidance of the Chairperson.

 

33.  Participation of members of the public at community council meetings shall be properly minuted if they are invited to address NMCC rather than simply observe. If they are known to NMCC they can request they should not be identified in minutes.

 

34.  The community council shall make particular efforts to encourage under-represented groups to participate in the work of their community council.

 

Committees

 

35.  The community council may appoint such committees at it may from time to time decide and shall determine their composition, terms of reference, duration, duties and powers.

 

 

Control of Finance

 

36.  The financial year of the community council shall be from 1 April until 31 March the following year.  Examined accounts for the financial year shall be submitted to East Renfrewshire Council at the end of each financial year.

 

37.  A bank account shall be held in the name of the community council.  Any two of three authorised signatories, who shall be office-bearers of the community council, shall sign cheques on behalf of the community council.

 

Constitution

 

38. NMCC has the right to amend and vary this constitution subject to the approval 75% of its members and to submit same, courtesy to East Renfrewshire Council as our adopted constitution and for East Renfrewshire Council to note and record. We reaffirm our independence from East Renfrewshire Council.

 

39. This constitution is binding on NMCC and its successors and cannot be varied by others unless required by legislation.

 

Standing Orders

 

40. NMCC should endeavour to create and adopt a set of standing orders for the smooth and efficient running of meetings.

 

Bank Account

 

41. The NMCC bank account should have the signatories of three office bearers one of whom must be the Treasurer and each transaction should require the signature of any two signatories.

 

Dissolution

 

42.  Should the community council decide at any time that it is necessary or advisable to dissolve, it shall give public notice of a special meeting to be held specifically to discuss dissolution.  At this special meeting, should the proposal to dissolve be supported by a majority of the current membership, the community council shall be dissolved.

 

43.  Any community council assets remaining after dissolution, after the satisfaction of any proper debts or liabilities approved by East Renfrewshire Council, shall transfer to East Renfrewshire Council who may hold these assets in trust for a future community council representing that area.

 

 

 

Correspondence

 

All noted that they had read Jim Sneddon's email to a select group of CC members and local councillors and a draft reply was read out by The Secretary and agreed by everyone as our official response.

 

The Chair requested and it was agreed that in future all communication between outside parties and Cllrs. will  go through the relevant sub group Convenors.  PR and Communications,  Kirsteen Allan, planning David Jesner, Suzie Swift Health, Education Julie Mylett.  It was also agreed that all communication be copied to all CCs.

 

The Chair also requested that all Cllrs try and read and respond to emails as soon as possible  to keep on top of items.

 

AOCB

 

Should Community Councils have Standing Orders for the running of meetings.   All agreed for the smooth running of a meeting this was essential.

 

Our Health Sub Group will be co-ordinating a meeting with Julie Murray in relation to the Health Centre which as yet has produced no business plan, schedule of works etc.  Meeting will involve David Jesner, Susie Swift, Kirsteen Allan and Julie Murray.

 

Bryson has raised an issue with ERC regarding the bleeps on pelican crossings.   He believes they do not give people, especially the elderly, time to cross and could cause panic.   This is now being covered in the National Press.   While Dermot McGonnigle initially dismissed his complaint this is now being taken seriously at ERC.

 

Should any planning gain  from the Development at Hillview be used to widen the roads at the Railway Bridge rather than install a one way system?

 

 

Newton Mearns Community Council

Minutes of Meeting held on 10 February 2014 at 7pm

At Albertslund Hall

Attending:   David Jesner (Chair), Pat McCall (Vice Chair), Julie Mylett (Secretary), Colin Hamilton (Treasurer), Brian Kilcoyne, Stewart Mylett, Bryson McNeil, Susie Swift, Jules McGeever, Irene Yona

Cllrs. Tony Buchanan, Charlie Gilbert, Barbara Grant

Apologies:  Harry Stewart, Kirsteen Allan, Jim Swift, Ian McAlpine

POLICE REPORT

Simple Assaults              5

Serious Assault               1

Housebreaking                5

Attempted theft             1

Vandalism                        4

Breach of the Peace       2

Road Traffic Offenses     7

Possession of Drugs        2

Misuse of Drugs              1

Breach of Bail                   2

Fraud                                 4

Communication offense (abusive calls etc)    5

Approval of Previous Minutes

Correction to Susie Swift’s name.

Barbara Grant wished the comment regarding her leaving the meeting early to be removed. Chairman pointed out the minutes reflected what was said and took place. Was agreed to note that Cllrs. Gilbert and Swift were also late in arriving but otherwise remained unaltered.

Minutes approved by Susie Swift and seconded by Stewart Mylett.

 

 

 

Matters Arising from Previous Meeting

DJ brought up the meeting of 29 January in which he paid tribute to Cllr Grant for her comments regarding voting.  Cllr Grant had asked for a debate on the LDP and objected to the way it was being presented, said it was undemocratic and felt that she was better off not being there.

He felt that the Administration didn’t put forward much on the day.   The Joint CC had requested 3 times that a bigger venue should be used which was refused due to cost and no microphone, even though Eastwood Theatre across the road has exactly the right facility .  On the day the Provosdt had said the decision was his and no one had asked him to consider a move. There were approx 150 people outside Council offices with only 29 admitted which DJ felt was an abuse of the democratic principles.

REPORT FROM COUNCILLORS

Cllr Buchanan confirmed that the LDP had been “approved” with a unanimous vote and would now go to the Reporter.  The vote went against the Mosque at Eastwood High School but the other change for the denominational school was voted for.

DJ pointed out that attempts to have dissent recorded and Cllr. Swift wished to vote no it was not permitted citing standing orders. Cllr Buchanan confirmed that he was unhappy with the standing orders of the meeting because it failed to discuss the LDP and modifications properly.  He said due process for any such issues going forward would need to be addressed.

Cllr Buchanan also commented on the fact that he believes some staff and officers were victims with members of the public calling them liars and suggesting corruption when all they were doing was their job. He refused to substantiate this by suggesting who was responsible.

 

QUESTIONS TO COUNCILLORS

DJ advised that ERC Planning Dept is not engaging with the public and this needs to be improved upon.

Cllr Buchanan felt that there was sufficient contact with the public with a 12 week consultation.  Unfortunately the majority of ER residents aren’t interested.  Some areas see an impact in terms of roads infrastructure through Clarkston and Netherlee.

Bryson McNeil believes definitely more communication should be done by ERC. For example leafleting and handouts not just in the Extra.  Lessons need to be learned when the next one starts.

Brian Kilcoyne suggested a stand at The Avenue.  Cllr Buchanan repeated that he believes the libraries drop-ins were successful but agreed that improvements could be made.

He believes that the way they are facilitating the proposal is the best outcome for the area as Scottish Government requires 5700 houses whereas the Reporter will see plans for 4100.  The Reporter could say that 4100 is not enough.

There followed some discussion regarding the impact on schooling.   Boundaries for the agreed denominational school and the associated secondary.  Cllr Buchanan was quite clear in stating that he believes St Ninians has the space to accommodate the stream of pupils and that the census forecast for growth is in fact lower than we had quoted. Pat McCall asked if the 4100 houses had been factored in and felt the numbers did not stack up.   She requested that a calculation of the housing street by street be sent to NMCC.   The Planning Group believe the figures for total new housing when existing consents are included could be closer to 6500.

DJ repeated that Maidenhill has no drainage and how does ERC plan to sort that.  Cllr Buchanan said that he believes the Developers will have that in hand and have a plan for drainage and that it is their responsibility to do so.   DJ suggested that ERC keep providing land sites for developers knowing there are issues and releasing them anyway.   Cllr Buchanan advised that ERCs view is that all land is deliverable and developers take the risk to build.

Pat McCall expressed concern that Newton Mearns was already too big and that there should be more appropriate areas to build.   Why was the bulk being dumped in Newton Mearns.   The developers aren’t even developing the sites they already have here.

Brian Kilcoyne asked the meeting where do we draw the line?  If every 5 years there will be further building and the LDP and MIR goes up to 2025 where does the NM boundary eventually finish.

Cllr Grant stated that the Scottish Government are pushing for housing.  The general feeling is to build on to not create new communities.

DJ suggested new villages create a better community feel than urban sprawl would work.  There are solid boundaries at Maidenhill at the GSO/M77 .  At the south side of the GSO a new contained village could easily be achieved.

DJ advised the meeting of a PAN on 18 February from 12 till 7pm with formal presentation from 6 – 7pm. For the former Coats site at Netherplace to change to a retirement village but it looked to him like more full sized housing with a care home.  There is a new road proposed. Were the new road to go ahead he felt the site would become a viable small industrial estate for which there could well be a local demand creating employment.

ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS

Cllr Buchanan then mentioned the funding for Electric Glen.  The investment from  ERC is £30k and total cost is £78k. They anticipate 12000 visitors to the event.   He stressed that it was not a money making scheme and more to boost economy in the area and felt that local businesses were already showing signs of growth.   DJ commented that there was no job generation from a one off event.  Cllr Buchanan confirmed that ERC staff were attending on an overtime basis.

Cllr Gilbert advised that he had a letter complaining about litter along Stewarton Road and had has requested ERC to visit site and sort.

DJ advised that the grass verges around Jct 4 of the M77 on both sides is also covered with litter.

Susie Swift attending the Health meeting last week and had very positive outcome. The Arts Committee has been asked to commission work for the new Health Centre “bringing the outside in”. Susie mentioned First Responders to the health meeting but they didn’t seem to know much about it.

CHCP are meeting with First Responders next month.

Colin Hamilton has received a bill for £100 for the use of Mearns Castle and is questioning the amount with ERC.

It was noted that there are still no wardens at Broomburn shops.  Cllr Buchanan confirmed he would look into that.

He suggested a Planning Sub Group Meeting soon and NMCC intermediate meeting also.

Date of Next Meeting

10 March 2014 at 7pm.  Venue to be confirmed by Julie Mylett as Albertslund is getting refurbished.

 

Newton Mearns Community Council

 

Minutes of Meeting held 10 March 2014 at 7pm

At Mearns Castle High School

 

 

Attending:

 

David Jesner (Chair), Pat McCall (Vice Chair), Julie Mylett (Secretary), Harry Stewart, Kirsteen Allan, Brian Kilcoyne, Bryson McNeil, Irene Yona

Councillor Ian McAlpine

 

Apologies:

 

Stewart Mylett, Susie Swift, Colin Hamilton, Cllr Barbara Grant, Cllr Jim Swift, Cllr Tony Buchanan, Cllr Charlie Gilbert

 

Cllr McAlpine confirmed that unless we hear otherwise that Cllr Paul O'Kane and Cllr Elaine Green will not attend these meetings and to assume their absense.

 

Police Report

A very positive police report was read out.

Simple Assault                           6

Serious Assault                          0

Theft                                          9

Theft from lock fast                   6

Theft from house breaks            2

Theft from motor vehicles         2

Intent to steal                              2

Attempt theft / house                  4

Attempt theft / vehicle                1

Vandalism                                   5

BOP                                             9 (7 detected)

Road Traffic                               10 (10 detected)

Fruad                                           3

Attempted Fruad                         4

Possession of drugs                    2

Breach of Bail                             1

Telecomms crime                        1

Dangerous Dogs                          1

Local Police doing a great job.   The Sergeant advised that residents should pay close attention when at ATMS with skimming devices.  Cllr Waters has written to the Banks locally to suggest that older machines (which could be easier targets) be updated to prevent this crime.

Also Bogus Callers are active in Newton Mearns.   Will use an unmarked vehicle.  Notify police if anything suspicious.

Kirsteen Allan asked the Sergeant if with the use of WIFI for credit card payments has this increased fraudulent use of cards.   None notified however there have been occasions whereby someone using digital banking on phone on a train found that another passenger using a laptop can download all data wirelessly and use that card detail.

Cllr McAlpine commented on the joint initiative between ERC and increased campus policing to sort out driving congestion, parents and guardians parking illegally to drop their children as close to school grounds as possible.   The Sergeant advised that yes this will hopefully help the situation and people should take more care driving close to schools.

Cllr McAlpine commented on serious crime being down and commended the Local Police Force for all their efforts in keeping ERC safe.    NMCC agreed that the improvement was to be commended.

APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MINUTES

Minutes were approved by Pat McCall and seconded by Harry Stewart.

 

REPORT FROM COUNCILLORS

Cllr McAlpine commented in further detail regarding the campus policing of drop off areas especially Kirkhill Primary is a problem.    Wardens and Policing has increased and initially there will be a £60 ticket issued for anyone parking illegally.   He commented that even Parent Council were being verbally abused by trying to enforce this.   If there are persistent offenders and a ticket has already been issued then the next stage would be getting the car towed away.

Some suggestions were also offered regarding video recording the areas, using mobile CCTV units and issuing the schools with a campaign to promote healthy travel to school.   In the main this will not discourage some parents from driving their children to school.

Bryson McNeil commented that it is the stage we live in where this generation of parents generally will drive if adverse weather conditions.

DJ also commented that with the new denominational schools opposite Mearns Castle they will indeed develop similar problems.

Cllr McAlpine went on to confirm that ERC were planning a Review of Community Councils and had employed the services of an Independent Consultant, Keith Yates, based out of Stirling.   ERC wish to see where there can be improvements made and develop better relations with local Ccs. DJ asked when he saw this being implemented and Cllr McAlpine suggested within the next 12 months.

DJ suggested that the Consultant would not be independent and were they going to consult with the wider population to see what residents in ER want from their Council.  Cllr McApline felt that the Review was a positive step and yes they would be listening to everyone.   DJ reminded the Cllr that with the forthcoming Community Empowerment Bill which will directly affect the role of CCs, any changes that they may make would be very temporary as the Bill would supersede this and force them to repeat the exercise.  DJ felt this was  a shocking waste taxpayers money more designed to bring Ccs further under ERC control.

Cllr McAlpine stated this review would be in the spirit of goodwill however DJ felt that ERC already have issues with Thornliebank and others. Those issues are entirely of ERC’s creation.   Cllr McAlpine was not aware of any issues with those Ccs and noted that relations all across CCs would benefit therefore from this Review.

DJ also expressed disappointment that he has had no response in 3 weeks to questions raised with ERC regarding the Community Empowerment Bill.

Pat McCall felt that it would definitely be a good idea to put the Review to the public also.   Harry Stewart agreed.   He felt that perhaps ERCs idea of democracy isn't in line with the general public.

 

QUESTIONS TO COUNCILLORS

DJ asked if the Keith Yates report be made public.   Cllr McApline could not say it would depend on its findings.   Harry Stewart recommended that ERC learn from their mistakes ie. The Public Meeting.  He believes that ERCs conduct should be reviewed by the Consultation also.   Cllr McAlpine acknowledges that the volunteers that make up the CCs work very hard for the public.

 

DJ went on to ask what objections Jim Sneddon has to the proposed amendments to the Constitution.  He says he has asked and has had no reply.   He knows that the Chief Exec has confirmed we are independent so ERC should not govern their Constitution.   Cllr McAlpine believes that is something that can be quickly fixed.

 

Brian Kilcoyne asked if Public Consultation would go out every 5 years during the MIR if ERC review it every 5 years.   Surely the public will continue to express their opinion.   Cllr McAlpine's experience is that these meetings become rowdy and not beneficial to anyone.   DJ insisted that if ERC are doing reviews and trying to generate goodwill then their words don't match with their actions.

 

DJ then advised the Joint Ccs Forum were holding a public meeting at Mearns Castle High on 4th June for both sides to make their cases to explain the benefits of indepence or staying together would have for East Ren.   He asked if Cllr. McAlpine as a leader of Better Together would attend and make the Better Together case. Cllr. McAlpine said as it was non-political he would be delighted to accept.

 

Andrew asked if this debate could have a live internet feed for any interested members of the public to view.

 

DJ then asked Cllr McAlpine why he told the area forum NMCC had £4000 in their account and we should put it towards a fence ound an ERC owned playpark. Although this was previously discussed at NMCC meetings we never agreed that it would come out of Area Forum funds and the question remains why Community Councils and Area Forums should be paying to replace/repair anything on ERC owned property whether it be roads or playparks.

 

NMCC would much rather the Area Forum look at putting money into developing areas of Newton Mearns for everyone's benefit.   For example the park behind Fairweather Hall was a much loved area of Mearns and is now very run down with no one except messy dog walkers using the area.    Would the AF put some fund raising together and see how this park could be better developed on a par with Rouken Glen?   Cllr McAlpine felt this was a great idea and felt NMCC were best placed to apply for a Grant to help fund this project.

 

DJ asked Cllr McAlpine about Cheviot Drive which has been an issue for years and with the bad weather it was noted there is some flooding.  Cllr McAlpine thought it had gone to the House of Lords on appeal through the European Human Rights organisation.   He does believe as Cllr Buchanan had recently stated that the developers will be the ones to get the under soil drainage right before building works.   DJ asked Cllr McAlpine who had sent this to House of Lords and Cllr McAlpine suggested a resident of Cheviot Drive.   No-one knew anything about this and DJ suggested he meant the judicial review at the Court of Session..

ACTION: Cllr McAlpine to get definitive respond and report back next month.

 

Harry Stewart advised Cllr McAlpine that there were 6 dead trees at the top of Old Mearns Road near Caulders and more look like they could come down.   Should get looked at from a safety point of view.

 

DJ brought up the question raised previously of the flood box situated at Windsor Road.   Cllr Buchanan had promised to report back at the February meeting but failed to do so.

ACTION: Cllr McAlpine offered to asked Cllr Buchanan about this also.

 

CONVENORS REPORTS

Planning Sub Group

 

A Planning Sub Group meeting will be held in the next couple of weeks in order to discuss various applcations.   DJ asked the question why it is a PAN by Mactaggart & Meikle is being held before the Reporter looks at the LDP.   Cllr McAlpine said that these sites are very attractive to the Developers so they will move quickly.   What about utilities.   Pipes for drainage/gas/electricity etc are going to have to be run for miles.   This could cause chaos trying to put everything in place.   Cllr McAlpine said he didn't care about that it is up to the Developers.   DJ suggested that ERC should care as the public will be the ones complaining about flooding and road closures.

 

Cllr McAlpine did comment that they have learned lessons from the Greenlaw Development and will be working closely with Developers to get things done properly.

 

Andrew then brought up Cheviot Drive.  He believes they should be concerned about flooding there.   There was a FOI to Council for analysis of flooding and no data could be provided.  When asked why they were advised that no analysis would be undertaken of the drainage once off site the Council could leave themselves open for mitigation.

 

Andrew suggested that they should undertake a flood risk assessment and info should be made available and be up for public debate.

 

Cllr McAlpine said that at every Phase of the Development assessments would be made and would look at the overall impact.

 

DJ felt the overall plan was flawed as ERC and Government are trying to reduce motoring miles however the links proposed in the LDP would indicate that for Barrhead commuters their journey route into Glw was in the wrong direction greatly increasing the length and time.

 

AOCB

DJ mentioned the proposal of CampingNinja camp using Clarkston Rugby Club land to have Commonwealth staff camp there during the Commonwealth Games.   Giffnock residents complained and the idea was overturned as it was contrary to the local plan and it would create a precedent.

It was agreed that an intermediate meeting be set up also which would potentially be week beginning 8th April, possibly at Rowallan House.

Cllr McAlpine advised that Giffnock Library now has a meeting room ideal for our use.

Kirsteen Allan advised that leaflets were being constructed at present and should be about ready for printing soon.   Approximately 8000 leaflets required.

Date of next meeting 14 April 2014 – probably back at Albertslund

 

Newton Mearns Community Council

Minutes of Meeting held on 10 February 2014 at 7pm

At Albertslund Hall

Attending:   David Jesner (Chair), Pat McCall (Vice Chair), Julie Mylett (Secretary), Colin Hamilton (Treasurer), Brian Kilcoyne, Stewart Mylett, Bryson McNeil, Susie Swift, Jules McGeever, Irene Yona

Cllrs. Tony Buchanan, Charlie Gilbert, Barbara Grant

Apologies:  Harry Stewart, Kirsteen Allan, Jim Swift, Ian McAlpine

POLICE REPORT

Simple Assaults              5

Serious Assault               1

Housebreaking                5

Attempted theft             1

Vandalism                        4

Breach of the Peace       2

Road Traffic Offenses     7

Possession of Drugs        2

Misuse of Drugs              1

Breach of Bail                   2

Fraud                                 4

Communication offense (abusive calls etc)    5

Approval of Previous Minutes

Correction to Susie Swift’s name.

Barbara Grant wished the comment regarding her leaving the meeting early to be removed. Chairman pointed out the minutes reflected what was said and took place. Was agreed to note that Cllrs. Gilbert and Swift were also late in arriving but otherwise remained unaltered.

Minutes approved by Susie Swift and seconded by Stewart Mylett.

 

 

 

Matters Arising from Previous Meeting

DJ brought up the meeting of 29 January in which he paid tribute to Cllr Grant for her comments regarding voting.  Cllr Grant had asked for a debate on the LDP and objected to the way it was being presented, said it was undemocratic and felt that she was better off not being there.

He felt that the Administration didn’t put forward much on the day.   The Joint CC had requested 3 times that a bigger venue should be used which was refused due to cost and no microphone, even though Eastwood Theatre across the road has exactly the right facility .  On the day the Provosdt had said the decision was his and no one had asked him to consider a move. There were approx 150 people outside Council offices with only 29 admitted which DJ felt was an abuse of the democratic principles.

REPORT FROM COUNCILLORS

Cllr Buchanan confirmed that the LDP had been “approved” with a unanimous vote and would now go to the Reporter.  The vote went against the Mosque at Eastwood High School but the other change for the denominational school was voted for.

DJ pointed out that attempts to have dissent recorded and Cllr. Swift wished to vote no it was not permitted citing standing orders. Cllr Buchanan confirmed that he was unhappy with the standing orders of the meeting because it failed to discuss the LDP and modifications properly.  He said due process for any such issues going forward would need to be addressed.

Cllr Buchanan also commented on the fact that he believes some staff and officers were victims with members of the public calling them liars and suggesting corruption when all they were doing was their job. He refused to substantiate this by suggesting who was responsible.

 

QUESTIONS TO COUNCILLORS

DJ advised that ERC Planning Dept is not engaging with the public and this needs to be improved upon.

Cllr Buchanan felt that there was sufficient contact with the public with a 12 week consultation.  Unfortunately the majority of ER residents aren’t interested.  Some areas see an impact in terms of roads infrastructure through Clarkston and Netherlee.

Bryson McNeil believes definitely more communication should be done by ERC. For example leafleting and handouts not just in the Extra.  Lessons need to be learned when the next one starts.

Brian Kilcoyne suggested a stand at The Avenue.  Cllr Buchanan repeated that he believes the libraries drop-ins were successful but agreed that improvements could be made.

He believes that the way they are facilitating the proposal is the best outcome for the area as Scottish Government requires 5700 houses whereas the Reporter will see plans for 4100.  The Reporter could say that 4100 is not enough.

There followed some discussion regarding the impact on schooling.   Boundaries for the agreed denominational school and the associated secondary.  Cllr Buchanan was quite clear in stating that he believes St Ninians has the space to accommodate the stream of pupils and that the census forecast for growth is in fact lower than we had quoted. Pat McCall asked if the 4100 houses had been factored in and felt the numbers did not stack up.   She requested that a calculation of the housing street by street be sent to NMCC.   The Planning Group believe the figures for total new housing when existing consents are included could be closer to 6500.

DJ repeated that Maidenhill has no drainage and how does ERC plan to sort that.  Cllr Buchanan said that he believes the Developers will have that in hand and have a plan for drainage and that it is their responsibility to do so.   DJ suggested that ERC keep providing land sites for developers knowing there are issues and releasing them anyway.   Cllr Buchanan advised that ERCs view is that all land is deliverable and developers take the risk to build.

Pat McCall expressed concern that Newton Mearns was already too big and that there should be more appropriate areas to build.   Why was the bulk being dumped in Newton Mearns.   The developers aren’t even developing the sites they already have here.

Brian Kilcoyne asked the meeting where do we draw the line?  If every 5 years there will be further building and the LDP and MIR goes up to 2025 where does the NM boundary eventually finish.

Cllr Grant stated that the Scottish Government are pushing for housing.  The general feeling is to build on to not create new communities.

DJ suggested new villages create a better community feel than urban sprawl would work.  There are solid boundaries at Maidenhill at the GSO/M77 .  At the south side of the GSO a new contained village could easily be achieved.

DJ advised the meeting of a PAN on 18 February from 12 till 7pm with formal presentation from 6 – 7pm. For the former Coats site at Netherplace to change to a retirement village but it looked to him like more full sized housing with a care home.  There is a new road proposed. Were the new road to go ahead he felt the site would become a viable small industrial estate for which there could well be a local demand creating employment.

ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS

Cllr Buchanan then mentioned the funding for Electric Glen.  The investment from  ERC is £30k and total cost is £78k. They anticipate 12000 visitors to the event.   He stressed that it was not a money making scheme and more to boost economy in the area and felt that local businesses were already showing signs of growth.   DJ commented that there was no job generation from a one off event.  Cllr Buchanan confirmed that ERC staff were attending on an overtime basis.

Cllr Gilbert advised that he had a letter complaining about litter along Stewarton Road and had has requested ERC to visit site and sort.

DJ advised that the grass verges around Jct 4 of the M77 on both sides is also covered with litter.

Susie Swift attending the Health meeting last week and had very positive outcome. The Arts Committee has been asked to commission work for the new Health Centre “bringing the outside in”. Susie mentioned First Responders to the health meeting but they didn’t seem to know much about it.

CHCP are meeting with First Responders next month.

Colin Hamilton has received a bill for £100 for the use of Mearns Castle and is questioning the amount with ERC.

It was noted that there are still no wardens at Broomburn shops.  Cllr Buchanan confirmed he would look into that.

He suggested a Planning Sub Group Meeting soon and NMCC intermediate meeting also.

Date of Next Meeting

10 March 2014 at 7pm.  Venue to be confirmed by Julie Mylett as Albertslund is getting refurbished.

 

Newton Mearns Community Council

 

Minutes of Meeting held 10 March 2014 at 7pm

At Mearns Castle High School

 

 

Attending:

 

David Jesner (Chair), Pat McCall (Vice Chair), Julie Mylett (Secretary), Harry Stewart, Kirsteen Allan, Brian Kilcoyne, Bryson McNeil, Irene Yona

Councillor Ian McAlpine

 

Apologies:

 

Stewart Mylett, Susie Swift, Colin Hamilton, Cllr Barbara Grant, Cllr Jim Swift, Cllr Tony Buchanan, Cllr Charlie Gilbert

 

Cllr McAlpine confirmed that unless we hear otherwise that Cllr Paul O'Kane and Cllr Elaine Green will not attend these meetings and to assume their absense.

 

Police Report

A very positive police report was read out.

Simple Assault                           6

Serious Assault                          0

Theft                                          9

Theft from lock fast                   6

Theft from house breaks            2

Theft from motor vehicles         2

Intent to steal                              2

Attempt theft / house                  4

Attempt theft / vehicle                1

Vandalism                                   5

BOP                                             9 (7 detected)

Road Traffic                               10 (10 detected)

Fruad                                           3

Attempted Fruad                         4

Possession of drugs                    2

Breach of Bail                             1

Telecomms crime                        1

Dangerous Dogs                          1

Local Police doing a great job.   The Sergeant advised that residents should pay close attention when at ATMS with skimming devices.  Cllr Waters has written to the Banks locally to suggest that older machines (which could be easier targets) be updated to prevent this crime.

Also Bogus Callers are active in Newton Mearns.   Will use an unmarked vehicle.  Notify police if anything suspicious.

Kirsteen Allan asked the Sergeant if with the use of WIFI for credit card payments has this increased fraudulent use of cards.   None notified however there have been occasions whereby someone using digital banking on phone on a train found that another passenger using a laptop can download all data wirelessly and use that card detail.

Cllr McAlpine commented on the joint initiative between ERC and increased campus policing to sort out driving congestion, parents and guardians parking illegally to drop their children as close to school grounds as possible.   The Sergeant advised that yes this will hopefully help the situation and people should take more care driving close to schools.

Cllr McAlpine commented on serious crime being down and commended the Local Police Force for all their efforts in keeping ERC safe.    NMCC agreed that the improvement was to be commended.

APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MINUTES

Minutes were approved by Pat McCall and seconded by Harry Stewart.

 

REPORT FROM COUNCILLORS

Cllr McAlpine commented in further detail regarding the campus policing of drop off areas especially Kirkhill Primary is a problem.    Wardens and Policing has increased and initially there will be a £60 ticket issued for anyone parking illegally.   He commented that even Parent Council were being verbally abused by trying to enforce this.   If there are persistent offenders and a ticket has already been issued then the next stage would be getting the car towed away.

Some suggestions were also offered regarding video recording the areas, using mobile CCTV units and issuing the schools with a campaign to promote healthy travel to school.   In the main this will not discourage some parents from driving their children to school.

Bryson McNeil commented that it is the stage we live in where this generation of parents generally will drive if adverse weather conditions.

DJ also commented that with the new denominational schools opposite Mearns Castle they will indeed develop similar problems.

Cllr McAlpine went on to confirm that ERC were planning a Review of Community Councils and had employed the services of an Independent Consultant, Keith Yates, based out of Stirling.   ERC wish to see where there can be improvements made and develop better relations with local Ccs. DJ asked when he saw this being implemented and Cllr McAlpine suggested within the next 12 months.

DJ suggested that the Consultant would not be independent and were they going to consult with the wider population to see what residents in ER want from their Council.  Cllr McApline felt that the Review was a positive step and yes they would be listening to everyone.   DJ reminded the Cllr that with the forthcoming Community Empowerment Bill which will directly affect the role of CCs, any changes that they may make would be very temporary as the Bill would supersede this and force them to repeat the exercise.  DJ felt this was  a shocking waste taxpayers money more designed to bring Ccs further under ERC control.

Cllr McAlpine stated this review would be in the spirit of goodwill however DJ felt that ERC already have issues with Thornliebank and others. Those issues are entirely of ERC’s creation.   Cllr McAlpine was not aware of any issues with those Ccs and noted that relations all across CCs would benefit therefore from this Review.

DJ also expressed disappointment that he has had no response in 3 weeks to questions raised with ERC regarding the Community Empowerment Bill.

Pat McCall felt that it would definitely be a good idea to put the Review to the public also.   Harry Stewart agreed.   He felt that perhaps ERCs idea of democracy isn't in line with the general public.

 

QUESTIONS TO COUNCILLORS

DJ asked if the Keith Yates report be made public.   Cllr McApline could not say it would depend on its findings.   Harry Stewart recommended that ERC learn from their mistakes ie. The Public Meeting.  He believes that ERCs conduct should be reviewed by the Consultation also.   Cllr McAlpine acknowledges that the volunteers that make up the CCs work very hard for the public.

 

DJ went on to ask what objections Jim Sneddon has to the proposed amendments to the Constitution.  He says he has asked and has had no reply.   He knows that the Chief Exec has confirmed we are independent so ERC should not govern their Constitution.   Cllr McAlpine believes that is something that can be quickly fixed.

 

Brian Kilcoyne asked if Public Consultation would go out every 5 years during the MIR if ERC review it every 5 years.   Surely the public will continue to express their opinion.   Cllr McAlpine's experience is that these meetings become rowdy and not beneficial to anyone.   DJ insisted that if ERC are doing reviews and trying to generate goodwill then their words don't match with their actions.

 

DJ then advised the Joint Ccs Forum were holding a public meeting at Mearns Castle High on 4th June for both sides to make their cases to explain the benefits of indepence or staying together would have for East Ren.   He asked if Cllr. McAlpine as a leader of Better Together would attend and make the Better Together case. Cllr. McAlpine said as it was non-political he would be delighted to accept.

 

Andrew asked if this debate could have a live internet feed for any interested members of the public to view.

 

DJ then asked Cllr McAlpine why he told the area forum NMCC had £4000 in their account and we should put it towards a fence ound an ERC owned playpark. Although this was previously discussed at NMCC meetings we never agreed that it would come out of Area Forum funds and the question remains why Community Councils and Area Forums should be paying to replace/repair anything on ERC owned property whether it be roads or playparks.

 

NMCC would much rather the Area Forum look at putting money into developing areas of Newton Mearns for everyone's benefit.   For example the park behind Fairweather Hall was a much loved area of Mearns and is now very run down with no one except messy dog walkers using the area.    Would the AF put some fund raising together and see how this park could be better developed on a par with Rouken Glen?   Cllr McAlpine felt this was a great idea and felt NMCC were best placed to apply for a Grant to help fund this project.

 

DJ asked Cllr McAlpine about Cheviot Drive which has been an issue for years and with the bad weather it was noted there is some flooding.  Cllr McAlpine thought it had gone to the House of Lords on appeal through the European Human Rights organisation.   He does believe as Cllr Buchanan had recently stated that the developers will be the ones to get the under soil drainage right before building works.   DJ asked Cllr McAlpine who had sent this to House of Lords and Cllr McAlpine suggested a resident of Cheviot Drive.   No-one knew anything about this and DJ suggested he meant the judicial review at the Court of Session..

ACTION: Cllr McAlpine to get definitive respond and report back next month.

 

Harry Stewart advised Cllr McAlpine that there were 6 dead trees at the top of Old Mearns Road near Caulders and more look like they could come down.   Should get looked at from a safety point of view.

 

DJ brought up the question raised previously of the flood box situated at Windsor Road.   Cllr Buchanan had promised to report back at the February meeting but failed to do so.

ACTION: Cllr McAlpine offered to asked Cllr Buchanan about this also.

 

CONVENORS REPORTS

Planning Sub Group

 

A Planning Sub Group meeting will be held in the next couple of weeks in order to discuss various applcations.   DJ asked the question why it is a PAN by Mactaggart & Meikle is being held before the Reporter looks at the LDP.   Cllr McAlpine said that these sites are very attractive to the Developers so they will move quickly.   What about utilities.   Pipes for drainage/gas/electricity etc are going to have to be run for miles.   This could cause chaos trying to put everything in place.   Cllr McAlpine said he didn't care about that it is up to the Developers.   DJ suggested that ERC should care as the public will be the ones complaining about flooding and road closures.

 

Cllr McAlpine did comment that they have learned lessons from the Greenlaw Development and will be working closely with Developers to get things done properly.

 

Andrew then brought up Cheviot Drive.  He believes they should be concerned about flooding there.   There was a FOI to Council for analysis of flooding and no data could be provided.  When asked why they were advised that no analysis would be undertaken of the drainage once off site the Council could leave themselves open for mitigation.

 

Andrew suggested that they should undertake a flood risk assessment and info should be made available and be up for public debate.

 

Cllr McAlpine said that at every Phase of the Development assessments would be made and would look at the overall impact.

 

DJ felt the overall plan was flawed as ERC and Government are trying to reduce motoring miles however the links proposed in the LDP would indicate that for Barrhead commuters their journey route into Glw was in the wrong direction greatly increasing the length and time.

 

AOCB

DJ mentioned the proposal of CampingNinja camp using Clarkston Rugby Club land to have Commonwealth staff camp there during the Commonwealth Games.   Giffnock residents complained and the idea was overturned as it was contrary to the local plan and it would create a precedent.

It was agreed that an intermediate meeting be set up also which would potentially be week beginning 8th April, possibly at Rowallan House.

Cllr McAlpine advised that Giffnock Library now has a meeting room ideal for our use.

Kirsteen Allan advised that leaflets were being constructed at present and should be about ready for printing soon.   Approximately 8000 leaflets required.

Date of next meeting 14 April 20

 

Newton Mearns Community Council

Minutes of meeting held on 14 April 2014.

Present were community councillors Harry Stewart, Kirsteen Allan, Stuart Mylett, Bryson McNeil, Susie Swift, Pat Mccall, David Jesner, Brian Kilcoyne

Councillors present: Barbara Grant, Jim Swift, Tony Buchanan

Apologies were received from Cllr Ian McAlpine, Irene Yona, Julie Mylett and Jules McGeever

Seven residents were also present.

Police report was received and noted

Two ladies raised the question of the Police response in their area or lack of it with the officers. One lady identified herself as a member of the East Renfrewshire neighbourhood watch. Officers made a number of suggestions and promised to relay the comments back with a view to seeing  if they could increase the visible police presence in the areas of concern.

The minutes from the March meeting were proposed by Pat Mccall and seconded by Susie Swift.

Bryson McNeil raised the question of the letter to selected community councillors from Cllr. Danny Devlin. Councillor Buchanan spoke in support of Cllr. Devlin's comments. The Chairman refuted every single one of Cllr. Devlin's comments stating categorically they were distortions of the facts and misrepresentation of the truth. As he is currently pursuing this matter against Cllr. Devlin elsewhere, having gone through every item point by point, he said he would report back in due course as matters unfold.

CCllrs. demanded to know if Cllr. Devlin had breached data protection in accessing their private home addresses and wanted an answer as to why he thought he had the right to write to them as CCllrs. when he was not a Cllr. for the ward. Several announced that they were going to raise his behaviour with the Standards Commission who it was understood had previously suspended Cllr. Devlin for similar misbehaviour.

Harry Stewart responded to Cllr. Buchanan's allegation that the Chairman was only on the community council to further his own ends by pointing out that having served NMCC for nearly 5 years diligently and often crossing swords with East Renfrewshire council, it seemed to him to be a rather ridiculous allegation of no merit whatsoever.

At this point it was noted that Bryson McNeil had left the meeting.

Members of the public stepped in and two ladies took Cllr. Buchanan to task over his comments making the point that if it wasn't for the Chairman's hard work and efforts both through NMCC and separately through Briefing Notes, residents would be blissfully unaware of the actions of East Renfrewshire council.

Questions to councillors.

Disabled parking and parking in general at the Broom shops was raised and discussed with councillors.

It was noted that having failed to succeed with his judicial review over the Cheviot Drive site against Stewart Milne homes, the neighbouring resident had put his house on the market and chosen to move elsewhere.

The Chairman brought a delegation of the residents into the discussion who wished to discuss a planning application at Pilmuir Holdings. He carefully explained to residents that Cllr. Barbara Grant, whilst she would be able to listen to their comments, as a member of the planning applications committee, she would be unable to respond. At that point (8 PM) Cllr. Grant said she was going to leave the meeting. The Chairman asked her to stay to hear from the residents but she refused stating that the other councillors present could deal with the matter, and left the meeting.

Residents then voiced their objections over the application by Drew Paterson to build another house on his already externsively developed smallholding. They also pointed out that he was not entitled to take any further access off the private road and that by adding an extra house on to the already restricted private watersupply this would exacerbate the already inadequate water pressure supply for those residences at the end of the supply pipe.

Cllr Buchanan then raised the discussion on those steps approved by Council at the meeting on 26 March against three community councils including NMCC. The Chairman made the point to councillors that ERC’s threatened actions were ultra vires. NMCC had discussed and approved which they considered to be a far more appropriate constitution and had submitted same to ERC for their approval. ERC had not approved the proposed revisions to the constitution nor had they come back raising any specific points of concern. Their only response had been to say that no powers existed to enable NMCC to amend its constitution. The Chairman made the point and the NMCC members agreed that without ERC's approval of the revisions we were still bound by the original constitution signed in autumn 2013 by the previous chairlady. He went on to say that in his opinion ERC's behaviour was not only a breach of the Act, the Government's model scheme, but ERC's own scheme and was an affront to democracy. Cllr. Buchanan responded that ERC leads the way in local democracy much to the amusement of community councillors and those residents present.

It was agreed the next meeting would be on Monday, 12 May and the meeting ended at 9:15 PM.

 

Chairmans report 2014

Tonight is the start of my sixth year with this community council.

During the last 12 months this community council has been under greater pressure and workload, than at any other time in my experience.

It is worthwhile looking back at just some of the issues we have had to contend with in the hope that lessons can be learned and applied as we move forwards.
In September last year this community council was taken over by Labour Party activists. Fortunately even they very quickly realised they were not up to the task and the majority departed almost as swiftly as they arrived.
We then had to deal with the tail end of the local development plan and this was followed by the proposal to build a mosque within the campus of Eastwood high school along with the proposal to build two new denominational primary school on green belt land. We were successful in our opposition to the development on the Eastwood high school campus and continue to try to assist the Muslim community with their aspiration to deliver a site for a mosque in Newton Mearns but we were not successful in our opposition to the primary schools in that location.
We had to consider and respond to the community empowerment Bill.
When we submitted what we considered to be sensible and desirable amendments to our Constitution, East Renfrewshire council took the unprecedented step of granting itself ultra vires powers against ourselves and two similar placed CCs. Our measured and calm responses left ERC with nowhere to go and the matter was quietly dropped but not before we had spent considerable time and effort being distracted when we could've been more gainfully employed elsewhere.

In the coming year we face new challenges. The council have quietly announced a surprise meeting before the scheduled meeting on 24 September to approve a new scheme for community councils. We have been told that they then intend to hold fresh elections for all the East Renfrewshire community councils. It is my understanding based on the limited information available at this time, that such a move would again involve ultra vires action by East Renfrewshire Council. We are also keeping a close eye on the Reporter's deliberations into the proposed local development plan. We are also keeping a careful watching brief on the proposal for a new high school at Barrhead which has currently been frustrated by the councils wish to build it on common good land. Failure to deliver a new Barrhead high school for the benefit of Levern Valley pupils may impact greatly on the Eastwood secondary schools. This may frustrate the councils wish to build 2200 new homes in Newton Mearns as they will likely be unable to provide sufficient school places locally for the extra pupils these new houses will bring. The community empowerment bill is still being pursued by the Scottish government and again will have an impact which this community council will have to consider in detail. Then we will have the flood of major planning applications to consider once matters are resolved with the local development plan although we are already seeing developers launching early, if not premature, applications regardless of the outcome of the LDP public enquiry. Concerns remain unanswered over Maidenhill, roads, medical centre, and inadequate school places in nursery, primary and secondary education provisions.

Given all these matters on which we, as a responsible community council, have to represent residents views, the message I would ask elected members to take back to ERC is very simple. Please can we start working together instead of seeing each other as the opposition? Over the last 5 full years, NMCC has only once has the benefit of the attendance of all seven of the elected members for Newton Mearns. This is not satisfactory, especially given that most of our meetings attract residents who wish to address their Councillors and many Cllrs. do not hold surgeries at convenient times and places for residents. Our statutory role is clear. We are statutory consultees on matters of planning and licensing and have to represent the views of our residents and give them a voice. Councillors are elected to ERC to represent their constituents but unfortunately, all too often, this seems to take second place to local politics and party dogma. It remains my contention that outwith elections, there should be no place for national politics in local authorities. Every elected member, regardless of political persuasion, should be working together to secure the best possible results for residents and mindful of the needs of future generations.

We note changes are coming, we simply seek to make that change as palatable and as practical as possible along with the legacy we leave for future generations. All too often, planning consent is granted which simply adds to the urban sprawl, with no thought given to the fact that all these new developments, once built, are unlikely to ever be reversible or capable of modification in future years. If the plan is to deliver street after street of bland, unattractively designed homes then it's working well unfortunately.
So without apology, I repeat my message for tonight to elected members, please let's find a better way of working together. ERCs Community Councils should be an asset to you but only if you make us feel welcome and carefully listen to, and take cognisance of our views.

In view of the contents of this message I would take the unusual request and ask that the community council append this report to our September minutes as well as the AGM minutes, so that it immediately goes into the public domain when September's minutes are approved and its relevance is not lost during the coming year.

Thank you.