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Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017
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Re: Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017 5 days, 18 hours ago #7

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Well , I think tonight's meeting proved what a complete farce this motion was. The paper on the quango was already to be discussed so this was no more than a vehicle to attack the Scottish Government . We basically had the same matter discussed twice.

Cllr Macdonald asked twice in two separate debates whether members of the Quango would be paid. TWICE he asked , only to be informed that the report (which he might be expected to have read) stated in black and white that they would not be paid.

But of course , this was the Jim Swift show as per usual and as predicted ahead of time. Did he confuse the council chamber with an after dinner speech he thought he was making somewhere?

So if you missed the meeting , here's the highlights.

Fletcher makes condescending remarks
Swift makes condescending remarks
Miller makes condescending remarks
Buchanan makes condescending remarks
Wee Paul makes condescending remarks

Repeat the above on a loop for ninety minutes and that's yer meeting folks!

Re: Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017 4 days, 17 hours ago #8

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Newsline has now had an opportunity to watch the webcast.

In our opinion democracy in East Ren would appear to be in question.

Provost Fletcher blocks two elected members from getting answers to their questions.

  • The identity of the staff member who did not let elected members know about a loss of £2.3 million.
  • Why has Cllr Convery resigned from Barrhead housing board.



Provost or is it still leader Fletcher says they will not be told in the televised open meeting.

Re: Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017 4 days, 17 hours ago #9

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Conservative group leader Stewart Miller read out the report from the chief auditor and said that the internal control of finances is adequate and effective, with the exception of creditors.

However he made no mention of the circumstances surrounding Cllrs expenses.

Re: Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017 4 days, 17 hours ago #10

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Report by the Chief Auditor read out by Chair of Audit and Scrutiny.

Councillors are told by Cllr Miller that the council lost £2.3 million this year prior to the election.

This was due to fraud being committed on them which they new nothing about until the bank informed them that they had paid two false invoices.

The money was returned by the bank.

Cllr Miller also said that the fraud was not reported to elected members as it was pre election and staff felt that it could skew the election results.

After the statement Cllr Wallace (prior chair of audit) spoke and said that a member of staff had informed him that the elected members would be informed of the loss of the £2.3 million.

However it appears that another member of staff decided to with hold the information from Cllrs and the public, according to Cllr Wallace.

Cllr Swift (Conservative) asked who the staff member was that said it would be released to the Cllrs.

Gordon Wallace replied, it will be in the minutes of the meeting and would not identify the staff member.

Cllr Swift then asked who the member of staff was that stopped the information going to elected members and the Provost stopped it. He said it was serious allegation and he did not agree that was the allegation (Deliberately withheld) and if Cllr Swift felt that it had he should contact the Chief Executive.

Fletcher (Provost) stops the discussion and Buchanan (Leader) is accused by Cllr Swift of having prior knowledge that this would be raised, as he was reading from a prepared statement, in which he said "There had been no attempt to hide these mistakes".

More to follow on this item alone on a separate thread.

The specific wording used can be accessed on the council webcam site.

Re: Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017 4 days, 7 hours ago #11

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Meanwhile a replacement for Cllr Convery is sought to be appointed to the board of Barrhead housing as she is leaving the board.

This is thought to be somewhat unusual as she was only appointed a few months ago.

Cllr Devlin asked the reason why she was leaving and is told by the Provost that he will not get an answer in the public forum but to ask Cllr Convery privately at the conclusion of the meeting.

Cllr Ireland was quickly nominated to replace her by Leader Buchanan.

Re: Full Council Meeting - 13th September 2017 4 days, 7 hours ago #12

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Throughout the meeting, in our opinion there were indications that Jim Fletcher was acting as chair and leader. This has been noticed at previous meetings also where it was felt by some observers that some of his decisions and comments should possibly have been made by the leader and not him.

Begging the question, who is the true leader?.

There is an individual who is being paid for the role, yet it appears to some that Cllr Fletcher has not actually handed over the role in its entirety.
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